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I still disagree if we are developing both a human readable and machine readable form. Don't make the human learn n forms - machines are more able to switch delimiters on the fly than humans. In this thought exercise ... I need to free myself from my day to day life of making Xml do real work for end users - that act having some fundamental problems in itself. In the new core "ML" perhaps we could: - go for even less features - remove the idea of DTDs and DocType all together. - reflect on XML Schema, RelaxNg and why DITA went with the class attribute for its typing. - make the namespaces part of core. Of course, all these things could and are being done within the existing Xml. I think we need to acknowledge that Xml as concieved is kick ass. But core Xml may perhaps still be "bigger" than it needs to be. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Hunsberger [mailto:peter.hunsberger@g...] Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 3:04 PM To: Jim Tivy Cc: Pete Cordell; XML Developers List Subject: Re: XHTML 2 Working Group won't be renewed? On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Jim Tivy<jimt@b...> wrote: > Not a good idea for an open interoperatable data format. If part of the spec is a way to figure out what delimiters are being used in any given instance, then I'd argue the exact opposite. I believe this was the case for SGML (anyone?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Hunsberger [mailto:peter.hunsberger@g...] > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 7:31 AM > To: Pete Cordell > Cc: XML Developers List > Subject: Re: XHTML 2 Working Group won't be renewed? > >> From: "Michael Kay" >>> >>> One problem is that the more universal you want to make it, the more >>> contexts it has to be unambiguous in: for example XQuery has problems > with >>> {uri}local because it already uses "{" extensively. >> >> If you get really desperate you could do something Perl-esque where you >> choose your delimiters. > > Didn't SGML allow you to choose your own delimiters (in general)? > > -- > Peter Hunsberger > -- Peter Hunsberger
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