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Paul Downey: "... meaning neutral": in the sense that no bytes change state, true. In the sense that synapses change state, not true. Again, if you have to sell SOA or web services to the meatware, it is very useful to have such models. So in the thread, "Will the Real SOA Standup", the definition that had the most utility with the least ambiguity is the third one. The problem of the web, the blogs, etc., is the self-obsessed nature of the geeks who code and who actually believe the web revolution is driven by them rather than driving them. All of the decisions that determine the direction of the evolution of the web are being made by people who never write a line of code. I know the myth is otherwise and it is a very useful myth, but it is exactly that and no more. len
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