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  • From: "scott wiseman" <scott@i...>
  • Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:12:12 -0800
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  • Thread-topic: A bunch of components, but no mandated organization - reasonable?



-----Original Message-----
From: david.lyon@c... [mailto:david.lyon@c...] 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 2:35 PM
To: Rich Salz
Cc: XML Developers List
Subject: Re:  A bunch of components, but no mandated
organization - reasonable?

Rich,

> > Absolutely not true... you conveniently forgot the web server
> > and the soap layers and a whole lot of other practical
> > complexities... it's a multi-level stack system for
> > crying out loud.
>
> Only if you let it be.  I guess my earlier note was too obtuse.  If
you
> don't need all the WS-xxx stuff, *don't use it.*  If you don't need an
> Apache or IIS implementation for HTTP, *don't use it.*  If you want to
> send "raw" XML over TCP, future-proof yourself and put your elements
> inside a SOAP container.  Is this more clear?

Now it's finally clear - I didn't know that. Maybe reading all the
vendor brochures has confused me.

> > Let me ask you a question though... do you actually
> > use it in your day to day business? or is it merely
> > something you just recommend to others to buy?
>
> I used to use it more before my current job, which is now focused on
> building infrastructure.  But if I were going to build a distributed
> application today, I'd make it SOAP-based, absolutely.  (Did you
intend
> to make your question kind of snippy?  That's a rhetorical question --
> of course you did. :)

I thought so. Not uncommon in any case.

So have you done any distributed apps with soap? or any in the
pipeline?

David


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