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>> I guess that Sun won't sleep for too long and will offer a similar
>> declarative programming environment to be added to their actual 
>> framework.
> 
> 
> And then in 5 years someone else will counter with an "efficient 
> procedural programming environment that YOU control" or whatever.  The 

Sun has been asleep for years now. Java and J2EE have not evolved much 
relative to CLR/.NET .

Oleg



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