Subject: RE: XSLT 1.0 support in browsers
From: "Michael Kay" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 18:04:06 +0100
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Have you looked at the level of support for the xml-stylesheet PI, e.g.
support for the type, title, media and alternate pseudo-attributes, multiple
PIs, and so on?
I noticed recently that some browsers also support PIs that allow you to set
stylesheet parameters, which seems a nice feature.
I think you can get round the whitespace problems by the use of xml:space in
the source document. Not a nice solution, but perhaps a workable fix.
Michael Kay
http://www.saxonica.com/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julian Reschke [mailto:julian.reschke@xxxxxx]
> Sent: 01 May 2007 17:50
> To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: XSLT 1.0 support in browsers
>
> Hi,
>
> recently, I hear the claim "XML on the web has failed" a lot.
> In particular, in the context of the HTML5 proposal worked on
> in the WHATWG WG, backed by Apple/Mozilla/Opera.
>
> Of course, this is not really true. A lot of XML is being
> exchanged through HTTP, be it in XML-RPC & SOAP (gasp),
> WebDAV, or RSS and Atom.
>
> It seems that most of the time people are referring to the
> support of XML in the browser, mainly with respect to XHTML
> (which indeed is a failure so far due to the fact that IE
> doesn't support it), and client-side XSLT.
>
> There are several ways to do client-side XSLT, one of which
> is through the xml-stylesheet processing instruction. For a
> long time, that worked only in IE, but nowadays support in
> Firefox, Opera and Safari is getting better. In fact, it has
> become so good that it can *almost* be used portably.
>
> The purpose of this mail is to document the current
> shortcomings of the implementations, as experienced by me
> supporting rfc2629.xslt (the
> RFC2629 XML format is used in the IETF for formatting
> Internet Drafts and RFCs). My experience is that it's
> incredibly hard to do complex stuff without either XSLT 1.1
> (not finished), XSLT 2.0, or at least XSLT 1.0 + node-set
> extension function, therefore I'm looking at the node-set
> support as well...
>
>
> (1) Internet Explorer (MSXML)
>
> - It does implement msxsl:node-set, but it would be *really*
> great if it would also do exslt:node-set, which is supported
> by Opera and Firefox 3.
> Putting in special cases just for IE really is a pain. (*)
>
> - IE suffers from an IMHO bad decision to strip out
> whitespace before passing the XML document to the XSLT
> processor (see
> <http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms760265.aspx>). I
> understand that Microsoft can't simple change that without
> breaking deployed content, but it would be *really* cool if
> one could "opt out" of that behavior somehow (PI at the start
> of the document???).
>
> Summary: good, but room for improvement
>
>
> (2) Firefox
>
> - Works ok (although slow compared to IE), except for the
> lack of exslt:node-set, which will be fixed in Firefox3.
>
> Summary: will be good in next release
>
>
> (3) Opera
>
> - Has been improving a lot, and also has exslt:node-set since
> 9.2 (?), but the current release unfortunately aborts with a
> fatal error upon complex XPath expressions. Right now
> unusable for rfc2629.xslt (see
> <http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc2629xslt/rfc2629xslt.html
> #opera>).
>
> Summary: please fix this, and your XSLT rocks.
>
>
> (4) Safari (and WebKit?)
>
> - I had no opportunity to test lately, but AFAIK it still
> lacks support for exslt:node-set (see
> <http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc2629xslt/rfc2629xslt.html
> #safari>).
>
>
> Julian
>
> (*) of course that problem could also be solved by
> Mozilla/Opera/Safari implementing msxsl:node-set().
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