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Who was talking about optional? Err, as far as I know, the word 'some' was in a different sentence than the remark about indentation. How did they connect in your mind??? ;) Should or do? ;-) No very useful to argue what are and what aren't XSLT systems. I prefer talking about compliancy, rather than talking in terms of black and white. The choice what system to use is most often out of my hands... Are you saying there is a system that defaults to "yes" on XML output? No, not that I am aware of, but never have tested it anyhow.. Grtz, Geert
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