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Steve, hello. On 14 Nov 2021, at 8:31, Stephen D Green wrote: > Yet the challenges of creating fairly simple > XML documents today, even with XML-era technology such as .NET, are getting > worse because XML support is never updated. Could you say a little bit more about this? I'm not aware of there being a challenge here, which makes me think I'm misunderstanding your whole point. Different languages have different APIs for this, and while they're sometimes a bit annoying (apart from Racket's, which is lovely), I wouldn't call them a challenge. Python's API is sufficiently un-pretty that I use a home-made one (at about 50 lines of code), but that was mostly the product of procrastination, and a desire to use something a bit more Racket-ish. I remember Java's API being annoyingly fiddly, but no more than the rest of Java. And crucially, I don't see any of these being more fuss than learning an API to output JSON. Are you thinking about problems at very large scale, or with relatively exotic XML? By that I mean XML involving PIs, DTDs, CDATA sections, and all that jazz, which I generally wouldn't put under the heading of 'simple XML documents. XML input is certainly more of a fuss than a JSON reader, but that's simply because XML has a more intricate syntax than JSON. And I don't think anyone disagreeing that there are plenty of cases where XML would be an overcomplicated format for a simple serialisation problem. > For example, just converting > UTF-8 XML to UTF-16 requires conjuring tricks with serialisation which > cause memory leaks, and the kinds of string buffer and stream conversions > that would baffle any developer except an XML specialist. Isn't that just iconv? Changing encodings will always require a little bit of nous, which is avoided in JSON by the simple (wise) expedient of mandating a single encoding for all. Best wishes, Norman -- Norman Gray : https://nxg.me.uk SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK
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