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The disagreement originally was is hyperlinking owned by the content or by the style sheet (say the application). This is the original Hytime vs DSSSL schism. At that time, there was no "web" to talk about. IOW: what IS a hyperlink? A relationship? A function? An object? What? Be careful of the "giants" and "REST is THE" discussion. There is a bit of retrofitted history in that description. The Internet and the web applications as well as others were functional before the term "representational state transfer" was ever coined and that notion was already a part of discussions. There is less invention there than you believe which is why the W3C has been unable to overturn certain critical patents. It isn't authoritative nor an invention. It is a thesis with ideas that work because there was sufficient experience to document them formally. However the technical point is as David and others have said. As soon as you add application semantics, XML becomes less useful, not more. For example, try putting hard wired linking semantics into non-text browser applications such as 3D gaming. len -----Original Message----- From: David Lee [mailto:dlee@c...] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 8:44 AM To: Rushforth, Peter; Andrew Welch Cc: Uche Ogbuji; xml-dev@l... Subject: RE: "Introducing MicroXML, Part 1: Explore the basic principles of MicroXML" Peter Sez > But, my point remains, Web browsers are the most common XML processing > application on earth, and they can't recognize the hypermedia affordances we > put in our representations. Why not? > Here is where I think you will find the crux of the disagreement. First off I will assert your statement is factually incorrect (about being the most common XML processing app). But more importantly, philosophically ... There is the camp that believes XML should be agnostic about the application layer And there is the camp that believes XML should be tailored to make its use in a web browser more usable. Finding common ground between these is tough ... and IMHO is why we ended up with HTML5 instead of XHTML2. ---------------------------------------- David A. Lee dlee@c... http://www.xmlsh.org _______________________________________________________________________ XML-DEV is a publicly archived, unmoderated list hosted by OASIS to support XML implementation and development. To minimize spam in the archives, you must subscribe before posting. [Un]Subscribe/change address: http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/ Or unsubscribe: xml-dev-unsubscribe@l... subscribe: xml-dev-subscribe@l... List archive: http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ List Guidelines: http://www.oasis-open.org/maillists/guidelines.php
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