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And it's been a topic of discussion since before the web was layered onto the Internet: how to keep links from snapping. It was STimBL's primary insight or compromise in the practice of hypermedia: let them snap. Specifically in markup, it was discussed in context of the role of the FPIs. There is no mystery here; formal registration of names and service contracts for resource maintenance. OTW, you are storing information in the clouds and we all know the song, "As the Clouds Roll By". len -----Original Message----- From: David Lee [mailto:dlee@c...] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 11:01 AM To: Henry S. Thompson; John Cowan Cc: xml-dev@l... Subject: RE: XML Conference archives This really is a key point about the internet. By its very nature the relationships between URI, URL, and availability are transient. Where do we turn to when we want a real long lasting document identifier and some measure of commitment to archival ? Unfortunately that is not what the internet really is ... but it is what its often used for ... arg. ---------------------------------------- David A. Lee dlee@c... http://www.xmlsh.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Henry S. Thompson [mailto:ht@i...] > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 11:51 AM > To: John Cowan > Cc: xml-dev@l... > Subject: Re: XML Conference archives > > John Cowan writes: > > > Henry S. Thompson scripsit: > > > >> FAQ, perhaps. . . Anyone know of an online archive of papers from the > >> GCA/IDEAlliance XML conference series? > >> . . . > > > > The Internet Archive is your friend here. > > Ah yes -- I use it regularly, but somehow didn't think of it in the > context of producing the references for an academic paper. I wonder > what the acceptability of Archive references will be in times to > come. . . > > <uninformed_possibly_misinformed_speculation>The Internet Archive has > quasi-NGO-status by now, in that I believe there is some more-or-less > official agreement in place giving them some form of special status > wrt copyright, possibility in return for being willing to curtail > access in some cases on > request. . .</uninformed_possibly_misinformed_speculation>. > > ht > -- > Henry S. Thompson, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh > 10 Crichton Street, Edinburgh EH8 9AB, SCOTLAND -- (44) 131 650-4440 > Fax: (44) 131 650-4587, e-mail: ht@i... > URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ > [mail from me _always_ has a .sig like this -- mail without it is forged spam] > > ________________________________________________________________ > _______ > > XML-DEV is a publicly archived, unmoderated list hosted by OASIS > to support XML implementation and development. To minimize > spam in the archives, you must subscribe before posting. > > [Un]Subscribe/change address: http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/ > Or unsubscribe: xml-dev-unsubscribe@l... > subscribe: xml-dev-subscribe@l... > List archive: http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > List Guidelines: http://www.oasis-open.org/maillists/guidelines.php > _______________________________________________________________________ XML-DEV is a publicly archived, unmoderated list hosted by OASIS to support XML implementation and development. To minimize spam in the archives, you must subscribe before posting. [Un]Subscribe/change address: http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/ Or unsubscribe: xml-dev-unsubscribe@l... subscribe: xml-dev-subscribe@l... List archive: http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ List Guidelines: http://www.oasis-open.org/maillists/guidelines.php
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