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On 5/23/06, Fraser Goffin <goffinf@g...> wrote: > > Basically it seems to me that the question as to whether it is > > nondeterministic revolves on whether local is within other, > > Quoting from 'Essential XML Quick Reference - Skonnard/Gudgin' when > describing the xs:any namespace attribute value :- > > '.. The value of this attribute is either the string ##any, the string > ##other, or a list of namespace URIs, and/or the string > ##targetNamespace and/or the string ##local.' > > Hence it is not legal to include both of them on a single xs:any. E.g. > this is not legal AFAIK :- > > <xs:any namespace="##other ##local" minOccurs="0"/> > That's not what is being discussed. The question is whether ##other can in any situation contain ##local. If so I can understand why someone would suppose that ken's example is non-deterministic, if not I cannot understand it. However I am also wondering if one has a model where everything should be skipped in processing if that model can be considered to be non-deterministic, if everything is supposed to be skipped there should not be a chance of conflicts. Cheers, Bryan > > > > On 5/23/06, G. Ken Holman <gkholman@c...> wrote: > > > At 2006-05-18 00:20 +0100, Fraser Goffin wrote: > > > >The example schema fragment that you pointed at :- > > > > > > > > <xs:choice minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"> > > > > <xs:any namespace="##other" processContents="skip"/> > > > > <xs:any namespace="##local" processContents="skip"/> > > > > </xs:choice> > > > > > > > >looks OK, but XML Spy and MSXML 4 report it as non deterministic ? > > > > > > Below is the post that I made last week to the W3C Schema mail list > > > ... I still have not seen any response to the post, so I still do not > > > know the answer to the question. > > > > > > The UBL TC is meeting face-to-face this week so we need help as soon > > > as possible ... I hoping that someone on the UBL-Dev or XML-Dev list > > > might offer comments on the situation described below. > > > > > > Thanks again for bringing this up! > > > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ken > > > > > > Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 09:35:26 +0200 > > > To: xmlschema-dev@w... > > > From: "G. Ken Holman" <gkholman@C...> > > > Subject: Question of reports of non-determinism > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > Below is transcript of an extended example from our work in UBL: > > > > > > http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200604/msg00013.html > > > > > > I've been using xjparse invoking Xerces in order to test examples and > > > experiments for the TC. > > > > > > In the example below, I have modeled an extension point named > > > LineItemExtension into which I wish to allow child elements from any > > > other namespace and from no namespace. > > > > > > I am informed that some tools (not Xerces below) report that ##other > > > conflicts with ##local in that it is non-deterministic. Yet if I > > > take out ##local the example below fails in Xerces because I've > > > included an element in no namespace, so Xerces is implementing "other > > > namespace" as "other non-null namespace", while the other tools are > > > implementing "other namespace" as "other namespace including no namespace". > > > > > > Does ##other imply ##local or does ##other require there be a target > > > namespace that is different in the particle? If ##other implies > > > ##local then Xerces is wrong ... otherwise these other tools are wrong. > > > > > > I'm looking to advise the TC correctly in this matter, so any help > > > would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > . . . . . . . . . Ken > > > > > > t:\fraser>type exublorder2.xsd > > > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> > > > <xs:schema xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" > > > elementFormDefault="qualified" > > > targetNamespace="urn:oasis:names:draft:ubl:schema:xsd:Order-2" > > > xmlns:u="urn:oasis:names:draft:ubl:schema:xsd:Order-2"> > > > <xs:element name="Order"> > > > <xs:complexType> > > > <xs:sequence> > > > <xs:element ref="u:OrderNumber"/> > > > <xs:element maxOccurs="unbounded" ref="u:LineItem"/> > > > <xs:element ref="u:TotalAmount"/> > > > </xs:sequence> > > > </xs:complexType> > > > </xs:element> > > > <xs:element name="OrderNumber" type="xs:string"/> > > > <xs:element name="LineItem"> > > > <xs:complexType> > > > <xs:sequence> > > > <xs:element ref="u:Description"/> > > > <xs:element ref="u:PriceAmount"/> > > > <xs:element minOccurs="0" ref="u:LineItemExtension"/> > > > </xs:sequence> > > > </xs:complexType> > > > </xs:element> > > > <xs:element name="Description" type="xs:string"/> > > > <xs:element name="PriceAmount" type="xs:string"/> > > > <xs:element name="LineItemExtension" type="u:any-non-UBL"/> > > > <xs:element name="TotalAmount" type="xs:string"/> > > > <xs:complexType name="any-non-UBL"> > > > <xs:choice minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"> > > > <xs:any namespace="##other" processContents="skip" > > > minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"/> > > > <xs:any namespace="##local" processContents="skip" > > > minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"/> > > > </xs:choice> > > > </xs:complexType> > > > </xs:schema> > > > > > > t:\fraser>type exaeroorder2.xml > > > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> > > > <Order xmlns="urn:oasis:names:draft:ubl:schema:xsd:Order-2" > > > xmlns:a="urn:x-aerospace:ubl:lineitem"> > > > <OrderNumber>123</OrderNumber> > > > <LineItem> > > > <Description>747 Repair Kit</Description> > > > <PriceAmount>1200000.54</PriceAmount> > > > <LineItemExtension> > > > <a:LineItemDetail> > > > <a:Part> > > > <a:Description>Starboard wing</a:Description> > > > <a:Amount>600000.00</a:Amount> > > > </a:Part> > > > <a:Part> > > > <a:Description>Port wing</a:Description> > > > <a:Amount>600000.00</a:Amount> > > > </a:Part> > > > <a:Part> > > > <a:Description>Bolt</a:Description> > > > <a:Quantity>2</a:Quantity> > > > <a:Amount>.27</a:Amount> > > > </a:Part> > > > </a:LineItemDetail> > > > </LineItemExtension> > > > </LineItem> > > > <LineItem> > > > <Description>DC3 Repair Kit</Description> > > > <PriceAmount>37.25</PriceAmount> > > > <LineItemExtension> > > > <a:LineItemDetail> > > > <a:Part> > > > <a:Description>Rubber band</a:Description> > > > <a:Amount>37.25</a:Amount> > > > </a:Part> > > > </a:LineItemDetail> > > > <hello xmlns=""> > > > <world/> > > > </hello> > > > </LineItemExtension> > > > </LineItem> > > > <TotalAmount>1200037.79</TotalAmount> > > > </Order> > > > t:\fraser>xjparse -S exublorder2.xsd exaeroorder2.xml > > > No validation errors. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Registration open for XSLT/XSL-FO training: Wash.,DC 2006-06-12/16 > > > Also for XSL-FO/XSLT training: Minneapolis, MN 2006-07-31/08-04 > > > Also for XML/XSLT/XSL-FO/UBL training: Varo,Denmark 06-09-25/10-06 > > > World-wide corporate, govt. & user group UBL, XSL, & XML training. > > > G. 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