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Nyet! Point to the Wikipedia. Maybe there should be a permathread terminator symbol that stands for "Awww just Google THIS!" I don't know what that symbol will be except it might look like an airplane and can also index the 'take a flying leap' response. ;-) If we ever completely agree, it will be the end of XML-Dev as we know it because XML will finally be completely developed or markup will be obsolete. Oh wait a minute. It IS obsolete. It just won't die. len From: Michael Champion [mailto:michaelc.champion@g...] On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 11:16:45 -0700, Uche Ogbuji <uche.ogbuji@f...> wrote: > I should also point out that this is an XML-DEV perma-thread, and as > usual nothing new has been revealed in this round. I've been involved > in at least two long rounds in the past, and I have no idea why I'm > currently wasting time on it again. I dunno ... at least Len's post http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/200501/msg00144.html can be bookmarked and pointed to the next time the permathread emerges. I'm not sure I *completely* agree with it, but it hits most of what I consider the high points: - There is room for both static and dynamic typing in just about everyon's toolbox. - Neither provide a secret sauce to pour over real-world code to prevent disasters - There is a tradeoff either way -- dynamic/declarative tools tend to have a higher run-time overhead, static tools impose a productivity tax OR a tools tax. - The quality of the code generated by declarative tools or automagically invoked by dynamic tools improves as the technologies mature. In the long run we can expect the dynamic/declarative stuff to be more efficient, and the static checking stuff to be more integrated into platforms (e.g. .NET and Java) and design/code-time tools that eliminate much of the tedium. - The trick is to optimize the mix of different approaches for a specific project, not to grow so enamored of one particular Golden Hammer that you use it to pound nails, drive screws, and cut lumber :-) - No tool or methodology will save you from human folly. The end of Moore's Law is not that far away, but Murphy's Law and the Peter Principle will rule forever, or at least until the Terminators finally do us biological vermin in. Each time around these permathreads I think we collectively learn a bit more. ----------------------------------------------------------------- The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription manager: <http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/index.php>
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