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http://news.com.com/When+standards+don%27t+apply/2100-1013_3-5250780.html?ta g=nefd.lede He who colonizes fastest and uses the most luminaries wins. Why would I want to use SVG when there is a VML dll in every installation of IE, it does 80% of what I need with 0% of the cost of a plugin, it never changes and if MS decided to support SVG (unlikely but stranger things have happened), the transformation is quick and painless? Standards have no meaning. Only standards organizations have meaning and sometimes they don't either. ;-) len
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