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Understood. Yes, VML still ships. The requirement here is that the graphics have to be native to the browser, not an add-in or a plug-in. For diagramming without much in the way of animation, VML is sufficient. If or when they kill off VML, from what I've seen of Avalon, the transforms will be drop dead easy. Otherwise, I would use X3D and be having a lot of fun. ;-) When the X3D shaders become available, that will be big fun. Overkill for ERDs, yes, but an entertaining interface is not evil. len From: Robin Berjon [mailto:robin.berjon@e...] I have no idea how much CSS VML used. Is VML even still shipped with IE 6? MS killed it off long before they even started talking about their new stuff. I don't know what your constraints are, but Adobe's SVG Viewer can be used from IE as a binary behaviour, meaning you can use SVG directly in HTML. As always with binary behaviours, the hooking up is terribly ugly, but it's doable. You'll get something that can do much more than VML-in-HTML but using roughly the same approach.
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