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you got it pretty much...

the circle and circle slash are the SGML inclusion/exclusion.

the & represents Replaceable character data
the < represents Any
the A represents character data

cheers...hugh

W. Hugh Chatfield  I.S.P.
CyberSpace Industries 2000 Inc.
XML Consulting & Training
http://www.urbanmarket.com/csi2000
visit historic Perth Ontario:  http://www.all-about-perth.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Foster [mailto:bob@o...]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:10 PM
To: W. Hugh Chatfield I.S.P.; Betty Harvey
Cc: xml-dev@l...
Subject: Re:  A parentless element that is not the document
node - how?


Interesting, thanks!

I can see what most of the symbols mean (good examples). In memo.jpg, do the
circular arcs from header to cc and bcc indicate the & operator? The icons
for #PCDATA and EMPTY seem obvious enough. Does the box with A indicate ANY?

I guess I don't know enough SGML to get the icons with & and <, or the
circle and circle-slash.

Bob Foster

----- Original Message -----
From: "W. Hugh Chatfield I.S.P." <hchatfield@u...>
To: "Bob Foster" <bob@o...>; "Betty Harvey" <harvey@e...>;
"Roger L. Costello" <costello@m...>
Cc: <xml-dev@l...>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 3:33 PM
Subject: RE:  A parentless element that is not the document node -
how?


> I guess I Have a copy of all N&FD versions released (and maybe
unreleased)..
>
> I uploaded some shots to http://www.urbanmarket.com/DTD/memo.jpg  shows an
> SGML model for "memo"
> http://www.urbanmarket.com/DTD/xhtml01.jpg is the xhtml one I should have
> uploaded instead of attaching.
>
> cheers...Hugh
>
> W. Hugh Chatfield  I.S.P.
> CyberSpace Industries 2000 Inc.
> XML Consulting & Training
> http://www.urbanmarket.com/csi2000
> Visit Historic Perth Ontario:  http://www.all-about-perth.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Foster [mailto:bob@o...]
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:46 PM
> To: Betty Harvey; Roger L. Costello
> Cc: xml-dev@l...
> Subject: Re:  A parentless element that is not the document
> node - how?
>
>
> From: "Betty Harvey" <harvey@e...>
> > I really wish that tools like XML Spy and
> > Extensibility would provide the same functionality as Near and Far for
XML
> > Schema's.  Although I don't create DTDs in a graphical tool - Near and
Far
> > is the greatest QA and presentation tool for a DTD.
>
> Near and Far seems to have been a casualty of the Microstar acquisition.
> What was great about it? Does even a screen shot survive?
>
> Bob Foster
>
>
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