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I often here folks on XML-DEV talk about the distinction between data-centric vs. document-centric uses of XML yet I've always failed to see how these uses of XML are at loggerheads. This now seems to me to be the typical XML-DEV posturing the advance an agenda. Does anyone have any concrete differences between such uses of XML that require such divisive terms as "doc vs data people". ________________________________ From: Martin Soukup [mailto:martin@d...] Sent: Fri 6/6/2003 9:45 AM To: 'Simon St.Laurent'; xml-dev@l... Subject: RE: YAML Ain't Markup Language YAML does seem to very cleanly clear away the debate I see raging here and elsewhere nearly daily between the doc vs data people. I must say I am also concerned though. Where is the migration path for data people making use of all the excellent tools available for XML? There is an arduous path ahead. Martin. > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon St.Laurent [mailto:simonstl@s...] > Sent: June 6, 2003 12:35 PM > To: xml-dev@l... > Subject: Re: YAML Ain't Markup Language > > mamiano@n... (Mitch Amiano) writes: > > [much good, from a markup perspective] > > > >YAML does appear to hold value > >for data serialization. But a little nagging feeling inside tells me > >that there is a myopic viewpoint at play. > > I have to congratulate the YAML folks for their "myopic viewpoint". > They've set out to solve a much smaller set of problems in ways which > are convenient for those problems. They keep the Unicode text advantage > of XML, but go their own way for solving their own (still general but > much more tightly focused) set of problems. > > I've found in practice that data serialization brings with it a myopic > viewpoint on XML, and to put it bluntly, I'd rather have alternative > approaches which cater to that viewpoint than deal with efforts which > force data serialization notions into XML specifications. > > To me, the name "YAML Ain't Markup Language" makes clear the separation > from markup approaches. That separation seems far more likely to make > both people who care about markup and people who don't happy than > continuing to force both groups into one set of specs, tools, and > practices. > > > -- > Simon St.Laurent > Ring around the content, a pocket full of brackets > Errors, errors, all fall down! > http://simonstl.com -- http://monasticxml.org > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.xml.org/ob/adm.pl> ----------------------------------------------------------------- The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription manager: <http://lists.xml.org/ob/adm.pl>
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