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Elliotte Rusty Harold says: > It is time to remind ourselves of what James Gosling figured out in 1990. > A successful standard needs to wait until there's some actual experience > in the field being standardized. > <http://java.sun.com/people/jag/StandardsPhases/> You don't want to > standardize until you understand the problem domain, and have seen > multiple, competing possibilities." Completely agree, especially with the reference to the old Gosling paper. That is phenomenally prescient of what is happening in the XML standards world! > This JSR should be rejected in toto. None of this should be seen as > preventing Oracle and IBM from working on XQuery APIs. However, before we > establish any API as *the* XQuery API for Java, we need to have at least > a year or two's worth of actual production experience with different > XQuery APIs so we can learn what works and what doesn't, and what should > be standardized and what shouldn't. Uhh, completely disagree! First, look at the proposed schedule in http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=225 "Expert Group Formed: June 2003 Community Draft: following the publication of the XQuery 1.0 Last Call Working Draft (a second Community Draft might be issued after the publication of the XQuery 1.0 Candidate Recommendation) Public Review Draft: following the publication of the XQuery 1.0 Proposed Recommendation Final Release: following the publication of the XQuery 1.0 Recommendation" There *will* be a year or two before XQuery becomes a Recommendation <duck> for XQJ and XQuery to inform one another and to benefit from each other's implementation experience. Also, there is *plenty" of experience with proprietary XML DB APIs by the various XML DBMS vendors to draw on (maybe not for full XQuery, but for much of the subset of XQuery that ordinary mortals will actually use, aka XPath 1.0 <duck>). In Gosling's terms, XML DBMS querying APIs appear to be just now entering the "window of standardization". If the industry waits much longer, the political interest, i.e., the dominant vendors not wanting to inconvenience their customers by agreeing to standards that break existing applications, will become dominant and the window will have closed. --
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