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I wonder why it won't remove Stephane Bansard... >Ce message n'a pu etre achemine au >destinataire suivant : Bansard Stephane >en raison des difficultes liees a son courrier >electronique a l'Universite de Montreal. Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Park [mailto:donpark@d...] > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:24 PM > To: Xml-Dev > Subject: FW: ezmlm warning > > > This is just an example of what is wrong with the mailing list > program. My > ISP bounced two messages bounced in the recent past, two out of probably > hundreds successfully sent before and after those bounces. My ISP was > probably going through maintenance or something small crisis like > most small > ISPs do. > > Yet ezmlm is threatening to remove me from the list if a single probe it > sends bounces. Chances are the probe will not bounce, but if it > does, I am > going to get unsubscribed 'without further notice'. More > reasonable policy > would be to monitor for a week and deal only with those that consistently > bounce. It is unreasonable for ezmlm to expect 100% uptime from > my ISP nor > is its warning helpful at all since there is nothing I can do about it. > > Best, > > Don Park > Docuverse > > -----Original Message----- > From: xml-dev-help@l... [mailto:xml-dev-help@l...] > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 1:27 PM > To: donpark@d... > Subject: ezmlm warning > > Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the > xml-dev@l... mailing list. > > I'm working for my owner, who can be reached > at xml-dev-owner@l.... > > > Messages to you from the xml-dev mailing list seem to > have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce > message I received. > > If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the > probe bounces, > I will remove your address from the xml-dev mailing list, > without further notice. > > > I've kept a list of which messages from the xml-dev mailing list have > bounced from your address. > > Copies of these messages may be in the archive. > > To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request), > send an empty message to: > <xml-dev-get.123_145@l...> > > To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages, > send an empty message to: > <xml-dev-index@l...> > > Here are the message numbers: > > 21059 > 21060 > > --- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received. > > Return-Path: <> > Received: (qmail 9222 invoked by uid 60881); 4 Mar 2003 05:19:51 -0000 > Received: from by hermes by uid 0 with qmail-scanner-1.15 > (spamassassin: 2.43. Clear:SA:0(-1.5/8.0):. > Processed in 0.309863 secs); 04 Mar 2003 05:19:51 -0000 > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=8.0 > Received: from unknown (HELO pyramid-02.kattare.com) (206.163.128.3) > by mail.oasis-open.org with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 05:19:50 -0000 > Received: from localhost (localhost) > by pyramid-02.kattare.com (8.12.8/8.12.3) id h245QQ9f025251; > Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:26:26 -0800 > Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:26:26 -0800 > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@p...> > Message-Id: <200303040526.h245QQ9f025251@p...> > To: <xml-dev-return-21059-donpark=docuverse.com@l...> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; > boundary="h245QQ9f025251.1046755586/pyramid-02.kattare.com" > Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details > Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) > > This is a MIME-encapsulated message > > --h245QQ9f025251.1046755586/pyramid-02.kattare.com > > The original message was received at Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:26:24 -0800 > from [209.202.168.102] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > <donpark@d...> > (reason: 550 5.7.1 <donpark@d...>... Relaying denied) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to mail.kattare.com.: > >>> DATA > <<< 550 5.7.1 <donpark@d...>... Relaying denied > 550 5.1.1 <donpark@d...>... User unknown > <<< 503 5.0.0 Need RCPT (recipient) > > --h245QQ9f025251.1046755586/pyramid-02.kattare.com > Content-Type: message/delivery-status > > Reporting-MTA: dns; pyramid-02.kattare.com > Arrival-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:26:24 -0800 > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; donpark@d... > Action: failed > Status: 5.7.1 > Remote-MTA: DNS; mail.kattare.com > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.7.1 <donpark@d...>... > Relaying denied > Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:26:26 -0800 > > --h245QQ9f025251.1046755586/pyramid-02.kattare.com > Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers > > Return-Path: <xml-dev-return-21059-donpark=docuverse.com@l...> > Received: from mail.oasis-open.org ([209.202.168.102]) > by pyramid-02.kattare.com (8.12.8/8.12.3) with SMTP id > h245QObK025243 > for <donpark@d...>; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:26:24 -0800 > Received: (qmail 8243 invoked by uid 60909); 4 Mar 2003 05:18:44 -0000 > Mailing-List: contact xml-dev-help@l...; run by ezmlm > Precedence: bulk > X-No-Archive: yes > List-Post: <mailto:xml-dev@l...> > List-Help: <mailto:xml-dev-help@l...> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xml-dev-unsubscribe@l...> > List-Subscribe: <mailto:xml-dev-subscribe@l...> > Delivered-To: mailing list xml-dev@l... > Received: (qmail 8237 invoked by uid 60881); 4 Mar 2003 05:18:44 -0000 > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=8.0 > Message-ID: <3E6439CC.98A244F4@e...> > Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 21:29:48 -0800 > From: Michael Brennan <mpbrennan@e...> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: "xml-dev@l..." <xml-dev@l...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Subject: [ANN] Small, simple Java-based XML output library > X-MailScanner: Found to be clean > X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact your ISP for more > information - Be > sure to include all mail headers > X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-6, required 5, > BAYES_10, KNOWN_MAILING_LIST, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL) > > --h245QQ9f025251.1046755586/pyramid-02.kattare.com-- > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.xml.org/ob/adm.pl> > >
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