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I'll stop lurking and make a technical point in favor of SOAP. Yes, I have read the e-mail threads and the referenced articles. :-) I'm one of the program managers at Microsoft that delivered the Microsoft SOAP Toolkit. My technical argument is this: all that matters when using SOAP is XML and all the power of XML can be leveraged when building applications that use SOAP. I can use the same programming model for doing simple "safe" things as I do for doing complex "unsafe" things. That programming model allows me to leverage Schema, XSLT, XQuery, XPath, etc. Granted, this may not be what SOAP tends to be *today*. But SOAP, at least, enables us get there someday. == Mike == Mike Deem Program Manager XML Technologies Microsoft Corporation This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Prescod [mailto:paul@p...] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 4:39 PM To: Simon St.Laurent Cc: xml-dev; spolsky@p... Subject: Re: SOAP and the Web "Simon St.Laurent" wrote: > > Did you get anyone defending SOAP on its technical merits? Technical merits? Not really. There were quite a few who technically bashed it in response to Joel's article though: * http://discuss.fogcreek.com/joelonsoftware/default.asp > You and Mark Baker seem to present more technical defense than any of > the "advocates", which has me thoroughly confused. > > (Don Box did bring up a common framing format[1], but I'm having a hard > time seeing the format mitigating the overall approach.) Actually, if I get time I will write an article on how XML is a lousy envelope format (whatever its other virtues!). Paul Precod ----------------------------------------------------------------- The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription manager: <http://lists.xml.org/ob/adm.pl>
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