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Len Bullard wrote: > Still mystified by this thread. Len, I always greatly appreciate your informative, philosophical, and humorous comments. Let me see if I can elaborate on (my) purpose of the thread. Yes, this is an attempt to influence how web services will be designed and the nature of XML messages. I am very concerned that people will use web services simply as another way to do tightly coupled RPC, i.e., procedure name plus parameters. I think that XML-based web services should provide a new paradigm, where the focus is on the data and business processes. I think that this involves a rather large mental shift, from this mentality: - call this routine with these parameters, get these results back, to this mentality: - here's business data, let me find one or more services that can operate on the data. I am looking/searching for a paradigm which will FORCE developers to make that mental shift. I have a gut feeling that requiring the separation of the data from the action will be such a driving force. Developers are quite comfortable with colocating data and actions. Forcing them to separate the two, and thus focus on the data and business processes will result in a quantum design/mental shift (IMHO). That's my ultimate objective. Now back to the issue at hand .. I take it from your comments that you question the role of multiple actions? /Roger
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