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On Wednesday 13 February 2002 01:47 pm, Mike Champion wrote:
> 4- The Way Ahead lies in teaching developers the power of HTTP and
> XML, not hiding them behind  Wizards, and RPC protocols.

... and in realising that not everything, and not everyone, is part of 
"the web".

>b) puts the application back at the center of the architecture, and
> uses XML merely as a serialization mechanism and HTTP as a
> transport. 
>
> c) Thus, the data is no longer portable, and the operations are no
> longer generic, so the Services Web is disjoint from the Web that we
> know today.

I would argue that you cannoy avoid these things. Application 
semantics/interaction styles exist, one way or another. The sequence 
of interactions, and the data exchanged are necessarily 
application-specific... you cannot deduce them from the permissible 
operations without some form of definition.


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