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> I'd like to see something more along the lines
of the "XML
> Encyclopedia" containing short
overviews and summaries of what is really
> known and agreed upon, and what is contentious in
spite of being a
>
Recommendation.
That's actully not what I want. I suggest
to almost elminate 'editors'
( well, there are editors on CPAN, but their
influence is
almost not-existant, I think ) The purpose is
that there should be
no "agreements" so that and *anybody* can easily
enter the
space at any point
of time. I think that it should be a huge
linklist with exptremely short annotations, pointing to the
homepages of the products / specs. That should allow covering
really *everything* around XML ( and that's the
task ).
It took me plenty of time to find the brutal XML
bindings, because
those bindings are 'not holy XML', so they have
very poor
coverage and I still think I've missed some
possibly interesting
XML subsets.
Of course, we already have a 'parts' of that
XML encyclopedia
here and there, like
http://www.rpbourret.com/xml/XMLDatabaseProds.htm
and of course one may occasionally find
some interesting
things jumping from one link to another, but there
is no
"big picture" and because only "blessed" efforts
get coverage,
we have people re-inventing the wheel here and
there.
I also think that technology is not really
important ... well ...
I think it is ... In fact, what I propose is kind
of 'the Web inside
the Web'. Some things have to be coded, because one
should
be able to find all the 'relevant' things and
'relevance' should be
described in some handy way e t.c. There are some
technical
challenges in
this progect, but I agree that the biggest problem
is not technical.
Either we allow *XML users* to define
"what is XML about",
or we keep wating for XML gods to tell us
what is 'XML' about.
The situation with SQL and CDE clearly shows that
when
gods thik that they 'always know better' it makes
no good
on a long run.
CPAN keeps some crappy modules, but that is
not a problem.
I know that I would find *everything* I need
about perl on
http://www.perl.com - that's really convinient
thing to allow unwashed
masses to build the common universe. That's how WWW
has been
built.
Rgds.Paul.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 7:58
AM
Subject: RE: XML Buzzwords.
RFC
I
can't say I fully digested this ... but it sounds a bit like the "XML
Wikipedia" thread a month or so ago.
Leigh Dodds has offered to host prototypes of this
kind of thing on his http://weblogs.userland.com/eclectic/
site, as I recall.
The technology is probably not the issue, it's
devising a process that motivates people to contribute yet keeps the
hype and spin and flames to a minimum that's the challenge,
IMHO.
-----Original
Message-----
From: PaulT
[mailto:pault12@p...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001
10:43 AM
To: xml-dev@l...
Subject: XML
Buzzwords. RFC
What I suggest is an attempt to stop constant, useless
and resource consuming holy wars. I suggest to
stop those wars with bulding some common space
that would be driven by plain technologizm ( there
is no political games on CPAN and CPAN is what've
made perl to become one of the most sucessfull software
projects).
However, I should stress out that building yet another
XMLSoftware or XSA framework is *not* what I'm
suggesting. I'm suggesting the common space that would
be freely open to *all of us* "no matter what your religion,
race, nationality or regardless of any negative political
history with us" and would also have W3C
blessing.
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