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Michael -- I found the same thing when I spoke at the eDevCon conference in December of last year. I came prepared with slides that explained what SOAP and XML-RPC are, but quickly abandoned them. The 200 or so people in the audience knew what they were, how they worked, and about a dozen of them were already using the technologies. Instead we answered questions for the people who still had them, and shared stories. The key benefit was that they could migrate to new languages and environments slowly, not all at once, and could intermix components developed in different environments. Dave
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